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Calluna
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| Meesh wrote: |
| Saluk's finger knife thingies are cool, but they copy off of X-Men I think. |
Not sure where the writers got them, but I'm sure those are a real weapon. I need to look it up again... |
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shadows_light91
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[quote="Calluna"][quote="Jibblet"]Knowing Sa'luk he probably would have stayed there and got it no matter what, if it was his job. But Cassim didn't want to hurt anyone, so he left when it got too messy, and he realized he wasn't going to be able to steal the oracle without hurting/killing someone.[/quote]
Are we talking about the beginning of the movie, where they're trying to steal the oracle from the wedding? Because Sa'luk definitely left first. (Remember "we'll leave the king to his plan"?)[/quote]
Ah, yes. Sorry, it's been a while since I have seen the third movie. But in a way, he made it seem like Sa'luk would have rather done it his own way...
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Calluna
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Jibblet wrote: |
| Ah, yes. Sorry, it's been a while since I have seen the third movie. But in a way, he made it seem like Sa'luk would have rather done it his own way... |
Oh, I agree there. I think him leaving early was intentional to sabotage Cassim's plan.  |
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AladdinsGenie
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*waits around for Samantha to say something* I can hear it now  |
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Meesh
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Calluna wrote: |
| Meesh wrote: |
| Saluk's finger knife thingies are cool, but they copy off of X-Men I think. |
Not sure where the writers got them, but I'm sure those are a real weapon. I need to look it up again... |
They remind me of brass knuckles... only... sharper and deadlier! 
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shadows_light91
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Samantha? Who? I'm lost... lol 
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Salukfan
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Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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I know I'm responding to this out of order.
| AladdinsGenie wrote: |
| *waits around for Samantha to say something* I can hear it now |
I'm working on a way to not go into a massive rant.
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| Oh, I agree there. I think him leaving early was intentional to sabotage Cassim's plan. |
I don't think he would have just 'left' Cassim. I think he left because of Genie- the men were getting destroyed, so he left the raid. I don't think it was solely because of Cassim's plan, though he certainly was against it before the wedding began.
Though it's an interesting coinsidence that the elephant happens to barge through and "save" Cassim right as the men leave. A bit of "clawed intervention" perhaps? 
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| d) He isn't hungry for being the best. Saluk is. |
Oh, I'd be willing to argue that Cassim is as hungry, if not more hungry, for the best than Sa'luk is. Cassim left his family behind in his quest to give them eternal wealth. While he didn't totally go the route of corruption (as much of his ethics are still intact), Cassim's betrayal of Aladdin (before the 2nd wedding) proves that it did eventually become a personal quest for the treasure that would make him the richest man in the world.
I buy what Sa'luk is saying at the beginning of "In or Out"-- he longs for the old days of the group, when they were actually successful. There's really nothing stating that he hates Cassim personally...just as a King, which, objectively, Cassim has failed as. Sa'luk was absolutely a jerk for betraying the group, but I think that he was determined to make the best for the group, no matter what he had to do to get there. Similar to Cassim and his desire to provide for his family.
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He's a lot more good-looking than Saluk.
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Just.... boo.
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| Like when Sa'luk is grumbling (if you want to call it grumbling) that they didn't get anything for their trouble in Agrabah. He seemed to care only about the stealing, even if it would mean people dying. |
But their entire lifestyle is based around stealing. If the group is becoming unable to do that properly, he's right to call Cassim on it. Cassim's "job" as King is to ensure success. It's not like Sa'luk was alone in his opinion-- the men were starting to buy it too.
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Salukfan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Jibblet wrote: |
| Samantha? Who? I'm lost... lol |
I'm the only one defending Sa'luk.
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shadows_light91
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, *bows* sorry. All hail Samantha, the official Sa'luk... fan.
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IRideAladdin'sCarpet
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*looks around*
WHY ISN'T THE THIEF WITH THE ROTTEN TEETH ON HERE?! |
I'm here in spirit, baby |
oh yeah. that's hot. <--hint of sarcasm
sarcasm-just one of the services i offer
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