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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Iago"]Yeah, you people have covered pretty much anything I was gonna say :lol: IMHO I think people should just let it go, the princesses are what they are, there's no need to discuss some of this because it sort of is "undiscussable" because everyone has different political views on it and are biased at times because of their race and such. ex. certain catholics saying you can't have abortion because it goes against gods rule. um hello, can't use it because not everyone has the same religion but I digress even if it was an example. it's fine to have your own opinion but using stuff like that is never going to get anyone anywhere in discussions. When I read the article, I really think stuff like "ZOMG NO BLACK PRINCESSES!!1one!" isn't really worth the time that is being invested in it. So there is no Black disney princess, that's life. If there was one then great let's support that princess as well! I'm hispanic (south america) and you don't see me getting all huffy about not having a hispanic princess *shrug*[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jafaria</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:05 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinFan92 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I agree,Billy Joe. Like I said,I'm black,and not having a black princess didn't bother me. <br /> <br />If u ask me,if u want more "ethnic" versions of these stories,watch Happily Ever After,Fairy Tales For Every Child. It has a Chinese TLM,a black Jack and the Beanstalk,a Hispanic Cinderella,and so on.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I have totally seen that version of The Little Mermaid! I loved it. <br /> <br />...Yay for youtube. Which reminds me, anyone who hasn't seen the Faerie Tale Theatre version of Aladdin NEEDS TO, and I'm posting it. Just...not right now, since I'm on my way to Arabic right now. <br /> <br />And, since I am no longer on my way to Arabic...The Faerie Tale Theater version of Aladdin: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDU3H6-WYhA&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDU3H6-WYhA&feature=related</a> <br /> <br /> <br />...This is totally offtopic but I'm posting it anyway.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:45 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think it's too lighthearted a subject to find it sad, really - especially since she doesn't actually exist. <br /> <br />*Bows down to the queen of mamluking threads*</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>A Whole New World</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: An interesting article about the Disney Princesses...</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Silly aritcle,black little girls don't need a black Princess to like the Princesses,a black little girl can like which Princess she wants,so only Arabian girls can like Jasmine? only Native American little girls can like Pocahontas? no they don't,and let's not forget that we have Tiana but I think that the only (Or main) reason that they made her movie and her character is to add a black Princess to the line. <br />Oh,and: <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Cinderella and <span style="font-weight: bold">Fantasia</span> -- and even 'The Little Mermaid's' Ariel (of the sea).</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />Fantasia? what? or whoever worte means Aurora? or Belle? if it's Aurora then it's sad to see many people only knowing her as Sleeping Beauty with Disney keep calling her that way but now they don't know who she is at all,that's sad <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" />.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:08 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">AladdinsGenie wrote: <br />It SEEMS, The Frog Princess could be Disney's first African American princess, in a New Orleans-ish setting with a Jazz soundtrack and not a very theatrical soundtrack! <br />And that might explain the preference of Randy Newman over Alan Menken. [/i] <br /> <br />...I am deathly afraid for Ron and John right now . I love the resolution to not exactly using an "African" country setting (since, you know, they're still catching hell for the last ethnic movie they did like that *points to this place* ), but I bet you dollar bills people will fuss over the New Orleans thing. BET YOU. Come on, who wants to take bets? </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Omg....just....omg. <br /> <br />::raises flag for R&J and starts Eulogy:: <br /> <br />I'm excited about FP but I'm a little scared for them too. <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /> I hope they use a NO-ish setting and not the actual place. I'm willing to take you up on that bet!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:02 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>PrincessHikaru wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">4) Racism ~ the scene with the crows. I'm surprised if nobody screamed about that.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />Why yes; yes, they have. I don't remember when or where, but I have some vague recollection of hearing about it somewhere.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hippsodeth</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">True. I feel sorry for a younger friend of mine whose mother wouldn't let her see <span style="text-decoration: underline">What a Girl Wants</span>. WTF? "Well, her mother was in a rock band....and....they....<span style="font-style: italic">kissed.</span>" OMFG, woman. Your daughter is 12. She watches stuff with people <span style="font-style: italic">kissing</span> and listens to rock music all the time. I know you meant, "The main character was born before her parents were officially married," but *meeeeeeep* - so was your daughter! <br /> <br />Back to Dumbo. <img src="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /> <br /> <br />1) Oh yeah, that's just stupid that people would yell about child abuse over something like that. <br /> <br />2) So...no watching 101 Dalmations, while we're at it? <br /> <br />3) Hah hah, you don't know how much I love the 1982 version of Annie. I've played Pepper onstage in Roseanne Sorentino's style. The Disney version butched everything. How is it more child-friendly to watch Rooster slash a knife into Annie's picture and talk about murder than it is to watch Miss Hannigan be a slush and attempt to <span style="font-style: italic">stop murder?</span> <br /> <br />4) I never thought of the crows as black. But again, I haven't seen Dumbo in eons. People could scream about that, but I'd still snicker. <br /> <br />Why do people pick at TV and movies so much, anyway? "Zomg violence will destroy our kids!" <--- I assume your kids have *lives?*</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AmethystFae</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">No no no. There's no contraversy with that, it just makes me cry. <br />But the movie has a list of other contraversial issues, and maybe you'll laugh, or just shake your head when I point them out. <br /> <br />1) Child abuse ~ When Mrs. Jumbo spanks one of the boys who was teasing Dumbo. <br />2) Cruelty to animals ~ The scene directly following the forementioned scene. <br />3) Chemical dependency ~ Dumbo and Timothy got wasted after the scene where they visited Mrs. Jumbo. (when the clowns poured beer into the water.) And then we come to the scene with the pink elephants, which were halucinations enduced by alcahol. <br />4) Racism ~ the scene with the crows. I'm surprised if nobody screamed about that. <br /> <br />As I mentioned before, these aren't problems ~I~ have with the movie, but it's the same types of things people pick out of other movies and TV. <br /> <br />~Hikaru</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hippsodeth</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:01 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">*hasn't seen Dumbo in ages* <br />What's the potential controversy about him seeing his mother locked up?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AmethystFae</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:58 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ick! I just get so nausious when the subject of Raven Simone is brought up. And BTW, when talkint about her, I usually refer to her as Raven [something else that starts with S.] <br /> <br />Oh, I saw Song of the South a couple of weeks ago, and I didn't have a problem with it. Of course, some people might argue that it's because I'm white, but I can usually put myself in other people's shoes regarding these things. BTW, was there much contraversy over Dumbo? I mean, I hear more bellyaching about the Disney Princesses, and I could list off the problems one might have with Dumbo, but I've never heard them from anybody else. And for the record, I liked Dumbo, but I can never watch the scene where he goes to visit his mother. <br /> <br />~Hikaru</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Emmlei</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:26 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I dunno... remember the Muses?</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yes. I didn't really mind them. And they're pretty much the chorus of the film, not intended to be taken as characters, and to have fun with the subject matter (not being serious). Could be treated better, but it's better than "That's So Raven." (that show is just not my type of humor)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:17 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I dunno... remember the Muses?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Emmlei</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:34 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm optimisitic. I feel the writers will create a well-rounded and original character that won't follow stereotypes. I think bck to Sweet from Atlantis, he was pretty well rounded and one of my faves.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hippsodeth</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:35 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Side characters don't necessariily have to be stereotypes. Main characters tend to be moreso. Since sidekicks (generally) are more annoying and one sided, I'd kill the television if your "good chance" becomes reality. <br />I have this bad image of Raven as some African princess going, "OH SNAP!" and Kyla saying, "You tell 'em, girl!"</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>APK</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:58 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The sad thing is, a black Disney princess would turn into an annoying and loud CGI character voiced by Raven Symone or Kyla Pratt. </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I would cry. No really </td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Omg, yes. <img src="images/smiles/icon_mad.gif" alt="Mad" border="0" /> If they ever do a black princess I really hope they get a good voice for her. They probably would, since she would probably be the main character. But there's always the chance that they'd give her a good voice actor but make an annoying "side" character to play the stereotype. And I don't know which would be worse.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hippsodeth</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:53 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Syera wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Hippsodeth wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Meg and, to some debatable degree, Ariel are Grecian.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br />I realize they drew a bit on relatively popular Greek mythos when coming up with the setting for The Little Mermaid, but she doesn't strike me as being Grecian at all. Her facial features (not just the red hair) have an Irish-like look to them. Also, since Hans Christian Anderson was Danish, I tend to imagine the story set somewhere in the Denmark area.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Her facial features, hair notwithstanding, are the Irish stereotype. One of my best friends is always mistaken for being Irish, because she has Ariel's basic facial look, blue eyes, red hair and is hyper to the breaking point of - *strangles Catalina.* She's actually Greco-Russian. <br /> <br />Anyway, it doesn't matter. Ariel's a mermaid of the Atlantic, though her grandfather is Neptune/Poseiden. I'd say that requires her to be Greek to some extent. <br /> <br />{Jafaria - You're always getting, "You're not Arabian? Are you sure?" People take a look at Catie, a look at me, and ask, "You're NOT Irish? She IS? Are you sure?" <img src="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /> }</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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