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Syera · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject:

I like a balanced character, personally. Someone with spunk, but not so over-the-top that she has to be a feminist at every turn. I think Belle is probably an excellent example of what I have in mind. She was an individual who didn't let people walk on her, but she wasn't a total rebel, and didn't have to constantly show people how kewl she was or how her ideals were superior.

And yes, I agree that while the ultra-spunky princess was fun for awhile, it's getting pretty old now. *coughMary-SueTraitcough*

As for the "white" part, that's a problem with story's settings, not the characters themselves.

If Rapunzel is going to be a comic character, then I say GO FOR IT!! GO FOR IT! We need something fresh and new! And a comic princess is something that hasn't been done yet!
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Hourglass · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject:

Syera · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject:

"Imaginary kingdoms" or no, the stories were fairly much of European origin.

And even though "Cinderella" is a multiculteral phenominon of a story, Disney's Cinderella was closest to Charles Perrault's Cinderella, which was probably the most well-known at the time. Probably whatwithall Perrault being French, Disney chose to set their Cinderella movie either in France or a mirror-image of France.

And Snow White couldn't have been "any race." She was definitely white. White white white. White as the snow. All the stories say so. Razz

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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject:

That's because Belle acted like her ideas were superior all the time. She's a little snob Laughing

. I'm sorry, but everyone acts as if Belle is this heroine Goddess because she reads and wasn't out to get married, but she really isn't at all. None of them are to be honest. I can't think of a perfect heroine and God forbid if I do. I prefer it this way. Although I do think Mulan was really balanced, which is why she is my favorite heroine outside the "princess" title".There was a lot more realism with her than I've seen in anyone else in a long time. Jane as well.

I have no problem with the chicks with attitudes, but...do all of them have to be that way? Haven't we progressed past that enough to have a different type of heroine to use? Laughing

Sometimes I wonder just how much ethnicity plays into all that, but I hate bringing race into matters so I don't. It's really easy to play on that "ethnic attitude" stereotype, but I really do think it's a coicidence they are like that being that with the presence of Megara. Her and Esmeralda can totally kick back and be seen downing a few beers talking about life Laughing

Yes, that's how I heard her approach was going to be and it isn't being receptive by a lot of the Disney princess fans at all. The closest I'd say we have to that type of character is Jane, but she was loopy Laughing

. I am completely for it because I'd love to see how that is going to be played. Having the woman be the comic relief and she isn't some old lady who sits around and cracks witty comics or smart ass remarks? This I HAVE to see. Laughing

Syera · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject:

If Belle was snobbish (I didn't think she was *that* snobbish... she just had no interest in marrying a jerky oaf), then quite frankly, it worked out well because Beast was even more snobbish and bratty, LOL.

Beast's brattiness cracks me up. Very Happy

AladdinsGenie · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject:

They were both just as arrogant as the other was Laughing

I mean, that rebel thing has been going on since about Belle, but definitely Ariel and hasn't stopped. Well...it sorta stopped with Jane. I love rebels, I'm a little rebel myself, but I just want something new. A 2-D animated movie (maybe even musical) with a female lead that's funny is a dream, and this is as close as I am getting to it. Laughing

Syera · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject:

Although I'm rather dubious about the 3D animation myself, it could work. We'll just have to see, eh? Smile

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Husse · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:20 am Post subject:

I don't know that Kida should be included in anything. And Nala? It's a LION. Rolling Eyes

And not a princess lion either.

But, yeah, I don't see the racial problem with disney. Color shouldn't matter, and I can't imagine a black person shoved into Sleeping Beauty, can you? Not the setting is all.
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IRideAladdin'sCarpet · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:38 am Post subject:

husse: i freaking love ur avatar!!!
as for the subject on which i'm *supposed* to be conversing about...
i need to get into the biz. just the other day, my mom randomly mentioned it'd be fun to do the voice of an animated character.
"uh, mom, that's only what i've been wishing to do like, my whole life! haven't you heard *any* of my ramblings about doing that?!"
mom:"after constantly hearing about aladdin, i've learned to ignore most of the ramblings"
me:"thanks, mom" <sarcasm
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Husse · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:06 am Post subject:

Yeah, I'd love to do anime. Some of the wackiest characters ever concieved reside there, and I do great little kids. Unfortunately, everyone in that business is WAAAAY more talented than I could ever be, and in anime, you have to live by the flap as well. Confused

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Hourglass · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:56 am Post subject:

Syera · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:26 pm Post subject:

You have to fit what you're saying into the mouth movements - AKA flaps - of the anime characters.
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Hourglass · Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:23 pm Post subject:

Husse · Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:12 am Post subject:

Yep, a lot of "okays" and "rights" and hehehehehehs, to fit the long Jap flap. Laughing

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