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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Syera"][quote]The fact of the matter is, cultural outlooks were different back then, and I can't stand it when a work is criticized for portraying history as it was (more or less). *coughHuckFinncough*[/quote] I SO agree with you. People're just so ridiculous about that type of thing sometimes. The fact is, what occured in Huckleberry Finn was life back then. The author didn't write up something for the purpose of offending one group of people; he wrote life as he knew it. Life wasn't perfect then, life isn't perfect now, and guess what? Life isn't ever going to be perfect. So WHAT if there were black characters who were slaves? So WHAT if people were given politically-incorrect monikers? That's what happened then. We don't have to do that now, but we don't have to try to gloss over the imperfections of the past, either.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rn</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Disney is NOT feminist, but it is NOT anti-feminist either. Remember that most disney films, cartoon or not, have some romance in them (Aladdin, TLK, Sleeping Beauty...). Some disney films also have (or one of) the main character a female (Mulan, Cinderella, Beauty and the beast, The Little Mermaid, Cinderella) so 9it's not easy to point out weather Disney is one or the other. Some of you may disagree on this one.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Husse</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:15 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It's just some hyper-feminist trying to be picky. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:22 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well, Jasmine wants to be free, and she escapes from the Palace, and rejects all the suitors and everything.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hourglass</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 5:41 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Syera (and others) <br /> <br />I see your point about acting 'as they would in their times'... <br /> <br />With Jasmine, especially. <br /> <br />But Aladdin was made to have a very modern feel to it. And modern means modern views and personas. <br /> <br />Jasmine, even though she was set back then, was meant to have the attitude of today. <br /> <br />You have to look at the setting in the movie, but listen to the attitude of the conversation to know which era the movie is really supposed to piculate.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:26 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thanks. <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sadira</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:23 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><a href="http://www.newint.org/issue308/dolls.html" target="_blank">www.newint.org/issue308/dolls.html</a> Just thought I would share the article. Enjoy ! <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:14 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">About that Nala and the lioness example, well, it was true that they couldn't overthrow Scar. I mean in real life, every pride of lions has to hav a male leader, for protection. And besides, it wasn't just Scar, it was the hyenas, too. And female lions can't fight against a male lion, because they don't have manes. The mane is to protect the neck, shoulders, and all that when they fight. Females usually do the hunting, for the same reason, that they don't have manes, and they can't be seen as easily. So, I don't think that was anti-feminist. That's just reality. The males are stronger, and their role in the pride is to fight and protect them. The females are there to bring food to the pride. Besides, they were pretty depressed and all that. They didn't know what to do. <br /> <br />And I don't think Aladdin treated Jasmine as an object. Achmed, and her other suitors, maybe, but not Aladdin. <br /> <br />I'd like to read that article.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Husse</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:20 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well, if Neo let his hair grow out, he WOULD'VE looked like that. <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.legendaryfrog.net/lite/movies.htm" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://www.legendaryfrog.net/lite/movies.htm</a> <br /> <br />Click "The Matrix has You," then "Zion Rave." <br /> <br /> <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jas</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:39 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Husse wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Have a "you're the proof" cookie. <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <br /> <br />What's that thing in your sig that looks like Neo dancing? <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> Yay! <br /> <br />It's Joe Flanigan (Sheppard's actor) dancing in "The Other Sister". I'll know about it when I get to see the movie Monday. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:47 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That's <span style="font-style: italic">Sheppard</span> dancing! <br /> <br />I didn't think he looked a thing like Neo. <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Husse</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:20 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Have a "you're the proof" cookie. <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <br /> <br />What's that thing in your sig that looks like Neo dancing? <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jas</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Yeah it really happened *points to Jas and her existance <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />*</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> I feel so special being the proof.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Husse</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:25 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Perhaps Quasi said it best relating to not-exact films: <br /> <br />SANCTUARY! SAAAAANCTUARY!!! <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Huckleberry Finn and the Adventures of Tom Sawyer are my favorite books ever next to the Arabian Nights. They're funny, but it's real. I just got my head bit off the other day for saying the Disney's version of the Hunchback of Notre Dame was a great film because "OMG IT'S HORRIBLE AND IT'S NOT LIKE THE BOOK." Um, hi, yeah--NONE of them are. Pocahontas I can see where the fuss is in that one being changed, but really--are you going watch an animated film about a 13 year old native American running off with a 30 something year old Englishman? Yeah it really happened *points to Jas and her existance <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />*, but a lot of true stories are remade to be something different. For what both of them are, Hunchback AND Pocahontas, they are nice films despite them not being in their true forms.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:57 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The fact of the matter is, cultural outlooks were different back then, and I can't stand it when a work is criticized for portraying history as it was (more or less). *coughHuckFinncough*</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I SO agree with you. People're just so ridiculous about that type of thing sometimes. <br /> <br />The fact is, what occured in Huckleberry Finn was life back then. The author didn't write up something for the purpose of offending one group of people; he wrote life as he knew it. Life wasn't perfect then, life isn't perfect now, and guess what? Life isn't ever going to be perfect. So WHAT if there were black characters who were slaves? So WHAT if people were given politically-incorrect monikers? That's what happened then. We don't have to do that now, but we don't have to try to gloss over the imperfections of the past, either.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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